quarters as a presidential candidate where he got nearly $35 million. >> apples to apples, mitt raised more money this time than he raised last time. >> he didn't write a check. so there is some difference there. >> no, this was the raw -- apples to apples, $23 million to $18 million. >> the problem is we know this is not a shock. there is a lack of enthusiasm, a sense of is this all there? there was a famous song, wasn't there? this is the field? and that might change over time as republicans get a nominee and people see it with obama. early on, i think a lot of people on the sidelines. >> i was just about to use that same word. there is a lot of money on the sidelines. it is pretty surprising about these numbers, though, is yes, people are waiting to see what's more. they're also very energized to beat obama and prevent his re-election. you're going to see the money come forward at some point. >> it's going to come, when does it come?